Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Friesian Stallions, decisions decisions....

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    East Anglia
    Posts
    273

    Talking Friesian Stallions, decisions decisions....

    We are deciding on a stallion for my Ebony, have looked, calculated, cross checked, cross checked again and think we are down to 3.....
    Onne 376 sport, Bente 412 or Fabe 348...

    Ohh how exciting. Vet consulted, bless her cotton socks she is currently on a diet, hoping to get 60 kgs off her and her rider is upping her exercise...

    Just got to wait now for the new year....

    Any friesian peeps know of any of the 'hot headed' stallion lines i need to avoid, PM if necesary please, want to keep the yummy mummy scrummy dopey personality she has!!

    Cazza

  2. #2

    Default

    On my thread 'frisian people again' madlady put a list of stallions and traits, some really good advice that should help

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    East Anglia
    Posts
    273

    Default

    Thats for that have had a look at the thread, doesnt look like any of the 3 on my list are included as 'hot' so lets hope thats a good sign..

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Normally in a field
    Posts
    4,898

    Default

    Is this for next year Caz?

    If so I would strongly recommend that if at all poss you go to the gradings in January and look at those boys 'up close' if you haven't already been - I personally loved Onne when he was going round but when we went around the back to look at him a little bit closer there were just a couple of things about him that put me off, his head was on the long side and he had a longer back than some which I wanted to avoid. I did like Fabe very much but couldn't use him on Dandea because he was too close in breeding to her, I don't think we ever had a look at Bente.

    Up close I thought that Brandus was amazing, Doaitsen, Ielke, Folkert (my all time favourite but he's one of the 'hotter' ones) Tsjalke, Jasper (even though he was a bit cresty for my liking he produces very very good foals) Sape was lovely, Beart was another one that we liked from a distance but not so much up close but again he produces very good stock.

    This is just off the top of my head, I've got tons and tons of info at home (we spent 2 years in Holland chosing the right hubby for Dandea ) I wrote down comments about almost every stally that went through the ring - happy to share if you need the info. Will you be sending her to Holland or will you be doing frozen semen?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    East Anglia
    Posts
    273

    Default

    We will be doing frozen AI as dont want to stress her out too much with the travelling. We have newmarket AI specialists close to us as well.
    We are looking to lengthen her as she is a typical baroque mare, stocky, and not what they now want at the gradings. We are hoping to get her covered in the new year. With the AI choice we have a limited number of stallions available and with trying to keep the % low. She is a Gradus mare so that rules out a few stallions.
    Madlady, would love as much info as poss, this being my first time (thankfully not hers tho)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Normally in a field
    Posts
    4,898

    Default

    You should get good results with AI from the newmarket specialists. My vet is an equine specialist and luckily is really up to date on all the AI stuff but it still took 2 cycles for Danica and 3 for Dandea

    We went for a package which was 500 per mare but that covered all scanning, inections, insemination etc - at one point they were doing hourly scans to make sure that they inseminated them just at the right time because frozen semen isn't viable inside the mare for 48 hours the way that fresh or chilled is, plus frozen semen has the extender in it which can cause some mares to set up a reaction to it so they needed washing out after insemination as well to avoid any infection. If the vet you are using hasn't dealt with friesians before then it might be worth their while doing a bit of research with the university at Utrecht - we found out that typically friesian mares produce larger than normal follicles which can make them look like they are further along in their cycle than they actually are and therefore vet could inseminate at the wrong time, also they tend to ovulate quite late in their season - ours both caught when they were inseminated on day 5.

    If she is a Gradus mare then you should be able to use quite a few of the Jochem line stallions so the Fietse, Tsjerk, Folkert as well as the ones with the same lines as Onne - I would consider having a look at Tsjalke 397, he stands at the same stud as Tsjerk 328 (G Toonen) and he is available by frozen, I found that particular stud really easy to deal with, they were really really helpful. The other stud that I used over there was De Nieuwe Heuvel - again they were really helpful. Oooo I've just realised Doaitsen is another one you could use, I've just had a look at his lines and there is no Gradus line in there at all but I don't know how he would stack up to the other side of her pedigree.

    If you send me your email address I'll happily send you a list of the studs and the comments that I've got on each stally, in the meantime http://www.signaturefriesians.com/fpsstallions2.htm this is a full family tree of all the approved stallions, it might help

    If I think of anything else I'll post again

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Halifax
    Posts
    3,206

    Default

    If you're an FPS member, the last Fyrso (sp is that whats it called!?) mag had a VERY VERY useful section on Friesians and AI/Breeding. We showed this our vet and he was vry interested in it. May be worth having a look.

    The book also has a list of all the approved stallions in the back and what they're available by... natural/AI/Frozen etc ...

    Also... shows you millions of pictures from the stallions show and their scores.

    LOVE that book, and read every page of it. We get it sent, but Im not sure if you have to subcribe to get it sent? deffo worth getting a copy though, you'll learn alot x

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Normally in a field
    Posts
    4,898

    Default

    Oh I've just thought of something else - on the central FPS website you can get access to the members bit (you have to email them for a password) and then they have this very handy inbreeding calculator

    Faye I think you have to pay extra to get Fryso mag - I didn't take the option

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Halifax
    Posts
    3,206

    Default

    lol what you like!

    It was a REALLY good mag this year... focused loads on AI and Breeding. All the gossip from the stallion shows... lots on what the judges are looking for/how to train them.. blah blah blah!

    I'll have to bring it over with me when I come over! x

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Normally in a field
    Posts
    4,898

    Default

    Oh yes please do sounds like a good read.

    At the minute I'm not even a member let alone getting Fryso now it's going to cost me 70 to rejoin.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •